Ben Wilson and Aisling Gallagher have been Ramps on the Moon Agents for Change at Sheffield and Theatre Royal Stratford East respectively. They are both also independent theatre-makers.

They give us a fascinating insight into what an Agent for Change does – and doesn’t do – to support organisational transformation, why being annoying, and why they have a trampoline instead of a desk.

Aisling celebrates the times things happen without her having any input and Ben tackles head on one of the key criticisms of Ramps on the Moon.


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Ramps on the Moon Podcast is hosted by Michèle Taylor.

Michèle Taylor, is a disability equality trainer and consultant, and has been Director for Change for Ramps on the Moon since the Consortium was convened. For the last 7 and a half years, she has been supporting the partner theatres to embed disability equality into their organisations and to realise their ambitions around elevating disabled people across the mainstream industry. In 2022 Michèle was honoured with an MBE For Services to Theatre and Disabled People.

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